Talk:List:Blast Triggers

Listing out each figure with the ability is already done by clicking the link of the ability name. Listing out each figure that has the ability is unnecessary. Especially the Range. Expect another merciless edit unless you can outline why you're cluttering up the list with this information. Gearbox 12:22, 16 August 2010 (CDT)
 * Very much agree on all points. This is excessive and even tedious to just look at.  Clean-up required and imminent.  ---Galactus--- 09:42, 17 August 2010 (CDT)

It was pretty ugly until I took out the extra two columns; now it works. The range-sorted monster listing is a good source of information for those wanting to compare the relative threat range of each trigger. There's no reason to make the reader go clicking through a bunch of links and compiling a comparison when everything can be listed right here; if it ever might help one person, it's worth doing, no matter how "unnecessary" other people might think it is. It's not "clutter", it's comprehensive. Willpell 03:57, 23 August 2010 (CDT)
 * Still not agreeing with your aesthetic views on this. This looks cluttered and messy.  If you want this much information all in one dose you need to put it in a table/chart.  What say the rest of you?  ---Galactus--- 11:24, 23 August 2010 (CDT)

I'm not a fan of this new layout for 2 reasons. It might be worth considering to take the idea of extrapolating on the type of individual triggers within the ability's page. i.e. on Hit & Run having the figures bearing the ability broken down into "Brawl", "Blast", and "Power" groups based on which type of trigger Hit & Run is on that figure. In the end, I think the information on this page is unnecessary as it shows things that can be found very easily elsewhere and actually makes finding specific content more difficult through the surplus of information available here. &lt;Philip Rowland&gt; 11:43, 23 August 2010 (CDT)
 * It's difficult to read. Hit & Run is featured on so many figures that it would be really easy to overlook one in the single-line format like this.
 * This information is redundant. If I want to see what figures have a particular blast trigger, I can easily go to that trigger's page to see the information in an easy-to-read format.  If I'm not looking for Hit & Run, I have to move past a big block of text that will only get bigger just to find the trigger I'm looking for.

I agree with the other two admins. This list (and the Power and Brawl trigger lists) are extremely cluttered and ugly. I support creating a list of triggers for each attack, just to see which there are. If you want to create a monster cross reference, then it needs to be a table or chart. These three pages are exceeding the scope of their existence. An encyclopedic resource has, by definition, a brief summary of information designed for ease of consumption; not a series of cross referencing charts. Gearbox 19:47, 23 August 2010 (CDT)


 * Both the chart idea and the sorting by trigger type on each ability's page sound good to me, and had occurred to me before I read them here. I want to know where you're getting your definition of "encyclopedic", though; a 17-volume Encyclopedia Brittanica is not "brief".  I see no reason why a "series of cross-referencing charts" is not exactly what the community could use, though I'll definitely agree that the formatting needs to be better than I'm currently capable of making it.  Willpell 14:27, 24 August 2010 (CDT)
 * While there is a lot of information in those 17 volumes, each article or set of information is a brief summary. It will define, for example, a whale, and perhaps even reference specific whale entries (ie. see also), but it will not have a full page with a size chart comparison of every whale species.  This is what I mean by encyclopedic resource: Wide breadth of information, but limited depth save on pages designed for it.  I am not arguing that the community may find use in the charts you wish to generate, but that the community will not use cluttered, difficult to parse pages that go beyond their scope.  We'll see what we can whip up in terms of a workable table for you to fill out. Gearbox 04:34, 25 August 2010 (CDT)

We need to make these charts or Willpell is just going to keep filling in these ugly lists. Gearbox 23:05, 8 September 2010 (CDT)